Welcome back to Razorwire! I'm your host, Jim, and in this second part of our CISO Dilemmas series, we welcome back security experts Oliver Rochford and Richard Cassidy. Moving beyond the challenges covered in part one, this episode explores the rewarding aspects of the role while taking a frank look at the ethical issues security leaders regularly face. The guests share personal experiences and practical actions for transitioning from technical expertise to strategic leadership, building effective teams and managing relationships across the business.