**Explore Revolutionary Cybersecurity Tactics on Razorwire with Rob Black**

Tune in to this week’s episode of Razorwire where host Jim engages with Rob Black, a former military strategist turned cybersecurity innovator. Rob’s extensive experience, from computer game design to defusing IEDs, provides a unique perspective through which we can understand adversary psychology in cybersecurity.

• In this episode:**
• Rob shares his insights on using deception and psychological warfare techniques to revolutionise cybersecurity strategies. Drawing from military tactics, Rob discusses how to manipulate attackers' perceptions, causing them to doubt their tools and make critical errors. We delve into real-world case studies such as the NSA's deception research and the infamous Stuxnet attack to illustrate the power of strategic thinking in cybersecurity.
• Key Discussion Points:** **Deception Tools and Strategies:** Learn how military-inspired deception can slow down and confuse attackers. **Psychological Influence:** Understand how engaging with the decision-making processes of threat actors can enhance network defence. **Real-World Case Studies:** Explore significant incidents like the Stuxnet attack and NSA studies to see how strategic insights strengthen cybersecurity.
• Episode Highlights:**
• **Psychological Defence in Cybersecurity:** Discussing the use of paranoia and other psychological tactics to protect against cyber threats.
• **Effectiveness of Deception:** How knowledge of deception affects the behaviour and decision-making of penetration testers.
• **Human Factors over Technology:** The importance of incorporating human behavioural analysis into cybersecurity strategies.
• **Proactive Defence Strategies:** The shift from traditional assurance to proactive measures in cybersecurity defence.
• Chapters:**
• 0:00 - Introduction
• 0:50 - How Robert Black got into InfoSec
• 5:10 - Transitioning from military to commercial cybersecurity
• 10:00 - Changing mindsets on what cybersecurity entails
• 14:20 - The importance of intelligence and understanding attackers
• 19:05 - Vendors, CISOs, and evaluating security solutions
• 25:10 - Underfunding of security and business priorities
• 29:50 - Using deception and manipulation against attackers
• 36:30 - Applying unconventional psychological tactics
• 41:40 - Advice for those new to the InfoSec field
• 46:10 - Closing remarks and promoting Robert's initiatives
• Guest Bio:**
• Rob Black, former UK government cybersecurity expert and lecturer at Cranfield University, has led several initiatives, including the UK Cyber 9/12 Strategy Challenge. With a rich background in military and cyber operations, Rob brings a unique perspective to tackling today's cyber threats.
• Also on Razorwire:**
• **The Human Psychology Behind Cybersecurity:** [https://www.razorthorn.com/the-human-psychology-behind-cybersecurity-with-bec-mckeown/](https://www.razorthorn.com/the-human-psychology-behind-cybersecurity-with-bec-mckeown/)
• **Criminal Minds: How the Cyber Crime World Works:** [https://www.razorthorn.com/criminal-minds-how-the-cyber-crime-world-works/](https://www.razorthorn.com/criminal-minds-how-the-cyber-crime-world-works/)
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