The Geopolitical Security Playbook: When Nations Clash in Cyberspace

Aug 5, 2025

In this episode of Data Security Decoded, host Caleb Tolin sits down with Dustin Droullard, a cyber threat intelligence expert and former Army intelligence analyst, to discuss how global conflict is increasingly playing out in cyberspace, from digital espionage to civilian-targeted cyber operations. This episode highlights why organizations must rethink their cyber risk strategies in light of modern geopolitical threats and growing digital exposure.

What You’ll Learn:
How influence operations are used to confuse, divide, and destabilize
Understanding your organization’s role in geopolitical conflicts
What basic cybersecurity practice still gets overlooked
Where small businesses can find free resources to improve security posture and resilience
How anthropology, business, and literature studies can power cyber careers
The gap in current cyber education and how to fix it with critical thinking and specialization

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Chapters:

0:00 Intro and Welcome

0:33 Dustin’s Journey from Intelligence to Cybersecurity

2:45 Cyber Espionage vs. Cyber Effects

6:38 Disinformation and Influence in Cyber Conflict

10:39 Every Business Is a Target in Geopolitical Crises

13:21 Federal and Nonprofit Resources for Cyber Defense

15:57 The Role of Anthropology and Culture in Cyber Ops

20:33 Majors That Build Cyber Thinking Skills

23:03 Educating the Next Cyber Generation

26:53 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

Episode Resources:
Caleb Tolin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/calebtolin
Dustin Droullard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dustindroullard
CISA – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency: https://www.cisa.gov
National Defense ISACs Directory: https://www.nationalisacs.org
Institute of World Politics – Cyber Intelligence Courses: https://www.iwp.edu